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Dec 12, 2012 7:00pm EST
the fiscal cliff tax hikes that are coming. let's faulk about this. we have igor volsky and guy benson. guy benson, i am glad they have won't up to this lousy medical device tax but did someone say minnesota where, wait, medtronic and st. jude medical are the biggest companies? they're the ones that make the equipment? and senator klobuchar and senator al franken are all of a sudden making a beef because it's in their state? where they been, guy benson, and when did they discover that taxes are job kimmers? >> i thought that wasn't the case at all. you're right. they didn't just wake up to this. let's be completely honest about what happened here. they knew all along that the medical device tax was not just a job killer but would really stifle medical innovation. we've heard this from people across the spectrum. the people involved in this industry who are making america the leader when it comes to world medical innovation, they're saying this is really going to put a crimp in what we're able to accomplish. now at the last minute, the 11th hours, you have 18 johnny come late live democrats,
CNBC
Dec 5, 2012 7:00pm EST
taxes on the rich, they were going to go over the fiscal cliff. but at the end of the day, if we do fall over the fiscal cliff, if taxes go december 31st, will the republican party be blamed? >> absolutely. right now, people aren't convinced that either the president or congressional republicans are serious about negotiating. but they're a lot more willing to believe that the president is negotiating in good faith. >> and let me ask you. is the republican party therefore becoming the party of the rich, defending the top tax brackets, and is obama becoming the party of the middle class? >> absolutely. and larry, the reason the republicans are in this fix right now is because they think these discussions and negotiations are about deficit reduction. president obama thinks they're about fairness. most americans, solid majority, want to see taxes raised on those upper income americans, even though only 19% think it will have much of an impact on deficits. it's not about the fiscal crisis. it's about fairness in the minds of most americans. president obama understands that and republicans don
CNBC
Dec 6, 2012 4:00am EST
over the fiscal cliff if republicans don't give in on higher taxes for the wealthy. a little bit of trade data out of the uk. i didn't have a forecast for this. adjusted global goods trade deficit 9.5 billion. september unrevised. forecast here forecast at 8.65, so that is a wide deficit than forecast. adjusted 4.5 billion. sterling not reacting huge amount. european stocks today are firmer. up 0.4% for the ftse. xetra dax continues its strong momentum, we are trading at 52 week highs and up now about 27% for the year. bond markets which is where we stand with yields, spanish ten year yields slightly lower, but we were 5.2% beginning of the week was the handle. currency markets, not huge changes. euro-dollar just below 1.31, dollar-yen 82.44. euro trading, though, at a fresh day high it must be said. we have comments coming out of china on the smartphone segment. apple's rang in china smartphone market which will become the world's biggest this year down to number six in the third quarter. facing tougher competition from chinese brands. this is the research firm idc coming out wi
CNBC
Dec 5, 2012 4:00am EST
the end of the year, concerns about whether the capital gains tax will rise. he says the fiscal cliff shouldn't be a big issue, and if businessmen got into the room they could solve the problem much faster than congress. >>> adding his tuppence, he says they'll have to get used to it and the fiscal cliff is one of the reasons. >> we have structural influences that speak to the deleveraging, speak to aging demographics of the boomers, that speak to globalization and technology, all of which have been labor and job unfriendly. >> joining us with his views, the senior european economist at jeffries international. before we talk about europe, i'm just wondering if bill gross is right there, what kind of impact is that going to have for everybody else? >> well, in terms of the fiscal cliff, it is having an impact on the u.s. and driving growth there. the impact on europe is probably quite limited for the time being. most certainly europe has its own problems to worry about. we're still kind of waiting for this to be resolved. i think for the time being the problems are separate. but ultima
CNBC
Dec 5, 2012 2:00pm EST
over the fiscal cliff and taxes go up across the board, $167 a month. that's about the same as two people's smartphones at home. that's not even a bill they had ten years ago. let's talk more about it. joining us, jared bernstein, senior fellow at the center on budget and policy priorities. nicole wu, director of domestic policy at the center for economic and policy research. jared, i'm not suggesting we go over it but i think you get my point. we spend a lot of money on a lot things, some of which we need, some of which we don't. why would a 200-month tax raise destroy the economy but spending $200 a month on a smartphone somehow doesn't? >> because of the aggregation problem. if you just look at one person it doesn't look so bad. but when you sum it up across 300 million americans and you factor in that 70% of our gdp is consumer spending, in europe it is about 55% so we're more dependent on the consumer for our growth -- then you understand why the congressional budget office -- i don't think they've ever done this before -- is actually predicting a recession if we go over an st
CNBC
Dec 5, 2012 5:00pm EST
. unlocking the world's potential. >>> no fiscal cliff deal without raising taxes on the rich. that's what treasury secretary timothy geithner told steve lease son. steve joins us from the white house with more on this. >> melissa, thanks very much. interesting comments from the treasury secretary who laid out the negotiating position of the administration in ways that it hadn't before, at least not explicitly as they had. what i want to play here is the sound from the interview and i'm going to put my question in there too just so you understand exactly what the treasury secretary was responding to when it comes to the position of the administration on walking away or letting the country go over the fiscal cliff without tax hikes for the wealthy. here it is. >> i want to understand the administration's position when it comes to raising taxes on the wealthy and those making more than $250,000. if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on th
CNBC
Dec 6, 2012 7:00pm EST
we could do is go over the fiscal cliff. we have the same tax rates that we have when bill clinton was president. significant cuts in defense and also significant human services can you tell us. >> katie, let me ask you, before you respond to what governor dean is saying. there is logic to what howard dean is saying. i don't happen to agree with it. but i know where he's coming from. katie, let me ask you this -- katie can't hear me. we'll wait for her to get back hooked in. howard, what about the notion that i'm posing tonight -- i've said this a few times -- republicans better be careful. they're not going down your road and the democrats aren't going down your road. you have middle class tax cuts for the democrats and it sometimes sounds to me as an old reagan conservative that the republicans better watch themselves because sometimes it sounds like they are kind of defending rich people. that's their whole mantra, just defending rich people. and i think that's not where they should be. >> i would agree. if i were politically advising the republicans, which i'm certainly not, i
CNBC
Dec 6, 2012 3:00pm EST
ceos in that meeting agreed the tax rates for the wealthy have to rise as part of any fiscal cliff deal. he joins us exclusively later on "the closing bell." stay tuned. [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- ♪ you can stay in and like something... ♪ [ car alarm deactivates ] ♪ ...or you can get out there with your family and actually like something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year. this is the pursuit of perfection. you won't just find us online, you'll also find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visit, you can ask for a name you know. because personal service starts with a real person. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our support teams are nearby, ready to help. it's no wonder so many investors are saying... i'm with scottrade. >>> one of the most bizarre man hunts in recent memory is coming to an end in central america, we think. wealth editor robert frank has the latest details on the arrest of john mcafee. >> y
CNBC
Dec 6, 2012 6:00am EST
we haven't reached any agreement on the fiscal cliff, we don't know what next year's tax structure is going to look like, how has that impacted caterpillar's plan? the deadlines of the fiscal cliff is driving us into our corners and i talk every day to our customers around this country, around the world sometimes for that matter, and in this country and they are scared to death what happens in january. nobody knows. going over the cliff is not an option we stare in the face. they'll figure out a way to get us through this in one form or fashion. there's outlandish guesses on both sides. i don't think we should risk it at all. if we do go over the downside is capex for next year, what could or should we do if everything slows down, i don't want to have to face and decide that. our outlook for 2013 is morms what 2012 is. that's the best we can see and they're three weengz away from the beginning of the year. >> i'll look forward to the day when you're in here again and can sit here for two hours and we'll run v.o. of big caterpillar equipment and talk about what's going on in china a
CNBC
Dec 4, 2012 7:00pm EST
have to leave it there. president obama says no deal on the fiscal cliff. >> how does raising tax rates on the rich help the poor. that is what i don't get. true free market capitalism helps everybody. a rising tide lifts all boats. i'm laugrry kudlow we will be right back. two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. our commitment has never been stronger. >> whow does taxing the rich hep the poor rise above poverty and get a job? let's talk to larry elder. he is the author of the great book, "dear father dear son". welcome back. how does taxing successful wealthy people help the poor get out of poverty. well for people who think like i think it doesn't make any sense. but understand something, that is not what
CNBC
Dec 5, 2012 3:00pm EST
let our economy go over the fiscal cliff if a deal on higher tax rates for the wealthy is not reached? we're checking it out. back in a moment. [ male announcer ] research suggests cell health plays a key role throughout our lives. one a day men's 50+ is a complete multivitamin designed for men's health concerns as we age. it has 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day men's 50+. it's easy to follow the progress you're making toward all your financial goals. a quick glance, and you can see if you're on track. when the conversation turns to knowing where you stand, turn to us. wells fargo advisors. >>> welcome back. this very public negotiation on the fiscal cliff still does not seem to be closing in on a deal. the white house out in campaign style events regularly, making multiple media appearances, kle including timothy geithner right here in 25 minutes. >> but would things be done faster if it was done privately? in his latest column, jeff goldfor a compares u.s. budget talks to merger proxy battles. jeff joins us to explain about that. plus, we have bob from jones day who
CNBC
Dec 7, 2012 12:00pm EST
, it made big moves to the upside. i think this is all fiscal cliff and tax related selling here. i don't think it's core, that rumor that because they moved up margins -- >> what do you do? your brother says stay away. >> i think he's right. you don't add to it until the final weeks of december. >> he didn't say stay away. >> did he say buy it? >> he said own it. >> if he thinks it's going up. >> if he loves it so much, why don't you buy more here? absolutely. on november 16th the stock rallied, took a little bit off, and i still believe on a tact tactical basis that's the right move, at least for me. longer-term time frame it is generational. it looks most like a bond. it's a bond-friendly type of asset. that's why i want to own it. now, john and pete are talking about what potentially could turn it. you have to look forward into the earnings season and understand the potential for the number of iphones to be sold to hit 50 million. now, the reason that it was down 9 of 11 weeks, why did that begin? it began on the conversation of iphone five constraints. you wanted to order an iphone
CNBC
Dec 6, 2012 4:00pm EST
cliff? are you expecting the economy to go over the fiscal cliff and see these taxes go high hadder and spending cuts take effect? >> my personal view is i'm still optimistic. i think the conversation has been constructive since. do we have a solution on the table yet? no. but i'm optimistic we'll get to a framework. >> why? >> there's been enough dialogue. there's been movement. everyone seems to recognize the problem. everybody realizes there has to be a revenue component, spend component, entitlement reform component. for us, the business community and all the ceos, certainty is the greatest stimulus for us. >> do you support tax rates going higher? >> me personally, as an individual, more importantly the business community, which i'm part of. we support something inclusive. if rates were higher in a videocasset vacuum, i'm not sure we'd be supportive of that. we have to make sure the consumers, those who spends a lot of the dollars, the middle class, are protected in this exercise. >> i guess the question i'm really getting at is, do you get the revenue from tax increases or fro
CNBC
Dec 10, 2012 3:00pm EST
. and after the bell, the fiscal cliff debate takes a dark turn to the dreaded death tax. that's right. not even the grim reaper can escape the fiscal cliff. [ male announcer ] at scottrade, we believe the more you know, the better you trade. so we have ongoing webinars and interactive learning, plus, in-branch seminars at over 500 locations, where our dedicated support teams help you know more so your money can do more. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our teams have the information you want when you need it. it's another reason more investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. another day where the markets are waiting for some clear sign on something. whether it's the fiscal cliff, the fed meeting. what are the proceed right now? >> we've got bob from s&p capital iq. steven wood and gordon shallop. great to have you all on the show. you normally get the priority of speaking first. what are you doing right now? >> right now we're anticipating for volatility. we knew it was going to be a volatile fourth quarter. there's a lot of policy induced vol
CNBC
Dec 10, 2012 9:00am EST
it's called fiscal cliff. and called radical tax increase. it was meant to cause a recession. the government felt in its infinite wisdom that -- >> you think it's a radical tax increase? >> i think so, yeah. i think you'll notice it in your paycheck for certain. >> that's absolutely for sure. >> your first check, second paycheck, then you get the chaos that bowles mentioned. and the chaos is, wow, i have much less to spend. i didn't know this was coming. alternative minimum tax being the silent killer who really understands how much more they have to pay, check at the end of the year. do the math. >> we saw it in the consumer sentiment numbers, and what it will be when the increases actually go through. most of that decline in sentiment that we saw on friday was from households earning more than $75,000. a higher income in this survey, households felt it the most, even though it's not here technically. >> one of the more interesting conversations over the weekend was bob corker saying, let's just go ahead, concede to the tax argument, which would flip the entire spotlight ont
CNBC
Dec 10, 2012 4:00pm EST
, going over the fiscal cliff will trigger huge hikes in the death tax. >> our wealth editor robert frank breaks it down now. >> thanks, bill. the estate tax could go up even more and become a big problem for any kind of cliff deal. let's take a look. the current tax is around 30%. only those worth $5 million or more have to file. if we go off the cliff, it will shoot to 55%. anyone with an estate with $1 million or more will have to file. that will cost many more in the estate tax. many prefer the tax is abolished. obama wants a 45% rate and $3.5 million cutoff. that's midway between today's rates and the old rate. now the problem is even some democrats are siding with republicans. they say they want to keep the current rates. so all sides here remain very far apart. this matters because wealthy families need to rewrite their wills, their charity plans. and for the country there are hundreds of billions of dollars of taxes at stake. it's also a hugely symbolic tax. the left says these estate taxes are important to curb family dynasties. and they also call it the paris hilton tax. the rig
CNBC
Dec 11, 2012 5:00pm EST
are investing in municipals because of fiscal cliff issues. they are investing with the idea that taxes are going up, though it's likely that there will be some modification of the tax exemption. >> alexandra, going to leave it there. thank you for coming by. >>> coming up next, how america's role in the global energy market could be in for a big makeover. we make sure you're ready for us. >>> plus, what you need to know and breaking down what's at stake. stick around. [ male announcer ] feeling like a shadow of your former self? c'mon, michael! get in the game! [ male announcer ] don't have the hops for hoops with your buddies? lost your appetite for romance? and your mood is on its way down. you might not just be getting older. you might have a treatable condition called low testosterone or low t. millions of men, forty-five or older, may have low t. so talk to your doctor about low t. hey, michael! [ male announcer ] and step out of the shadows. hi! how are you? [ male announcer ] learn more at isitlowt.com. [ laughs ] hey! >>> welcome back to "fast money." let's go right to eamon ja
CNBC
Dec 11, 2012 1:00pm EST
that you think that going over the fiscal cliff is in president obama's best interest. >> i really believe that. frankly, the lack of credible solutions and backtracking like the amount of spending. doubling the taxes he wants raised and the fact he wants stimulus package that he knew nobody was going to support here. doesn't look like he's trying to engage in ernest discussions, which leads me to believe he wants us to go over the cliff and be able to blame the republicans and maybe it's more about politics. >> congress people themselves said the election was a referendum on the president's ideas. part of that was the very clear message of tax hikes on the top 2%. >> that's great, but he didn't win my district and i did. so my mandate is something else. >> good appoint. >> if we only represent our own slices we'll never get anything done. >> you hit the nail on the head. what we're being asked is the republican conference, jump off the cliff alone. if this is going to be a deal, we've got to grab hands together and jump off together. they have got to put the long-term obligations on the t
CNBC
Dec 10, 2012 7:00pm EST
'm larry custody low. this is kwoez custody. all right. some possible optimism on the fiscal cliff. the gop seems to be in a strategic retreat and is likely to allow middle class tax cut bill to pass before december 31. now that's what my washington contacts are telling me. there are many bells and whistles. i believe that's likely. the president went to detroit today to send the fiscal plan and came out against the michigan right to work effort like he did in wisconsin and he's going to lose this one in michigan. meanwhile the economy and jobs are improving but the use of budget busting food stamps continues to soar. could the aggressive food stamp reason why? wait until you hear some of the radio ads. >>> proeb jumped head first into a right to work law today in michigan. eamon javers has the details. good evening. >> reporter: good evening. we are monitoring fiscal cliff talks. it's been radio silence from democrats and republicans in washington. they're sticking to preagreed upon talking points explaining that lines of communication are open. we don't know what it is speaker baner and b
CNBC
Dec 11, 2012 4:00pm EST
with spending cuts later. just raise taxes on the upper income now to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. this, of course, kicks the can down the road. the republicans say no deal if spending cuts are not agreed upon, along with new revenue right now. not later. but now, the next salvo, democrats now are saying that they won't put any spending cut proposals out there, they want to first hear what cuts the republicans want first. i guess so that they can use that against them in the public forum. we'll remember the infamous granny over the cliff ad after paul ryan floated his budget. so, what is the end game here? what if john boehner doesn't blink? we now have less than three weeks before the new year. i have said it before -- i am not expecting a deal. it seems even the prospect of missed vacations for our law makers, something we already know they hold sacred, may not be enough to bring real compromise. and what about the markets? well, here's the scary part. clearly the markets are looking for a deal. look at today's nice rally. they are trading as if we will get a deal and it might only be
CNBC
Dec 12, 2012 6:00am EST
, the fiscal cliff, the dividend tax rate, a power company ceo will tell us about his biggest concern if a deal doesn't get done by the end of the year. >>> also, what the ceo of walmart thinks about that, as well. he had really explosive data. mike duke last night. we'll bring it to you. "squawk box" is coming back. what's next? he's going to apply testosterone to his underarm. axiron, the only underarm treatment for low t, can restore testosterone levels back to normal in most men. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18. axiron can transfer to others through direct contact. women, especially those who are or who may become pregnant, and children should avoid contact where axiron is applied as unexpected signs of puberty in children or changes in body hair or increased acne in women may occur. report these signs and symptoms to your doctor if they occur. tell your doctor about all medical conditions and medications. do not use if you have prostate or breast cancer. serious side effects could include increased risk of prostate cancer; worsening prostate symptoms; decreased spe
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Dec 12, 2012 4:00pm EST
cliff. you'll raise some taxes, yes, that's true, you'll cut defense and some human services. this is the only way we'll have a significant bite out of this deficit. i think the market is going to like this. they say no right now, but when they see that this government is taking on the deficit in a serious way i think they will like it >> you don't think going over the cliff is armageddon? >> this is just nonsense, absolutely not. this is a bipartisan deal that was made. now both parties are trying to welch on their commitments. i think that's a mistake. >> steve, ben bernanke said today if we do go over the fiscal cliff, even if it's for a short period of time, it's going to be very costly and they do not have the tools to basically dig us out of it. do you believe if we go over the fiscal cliff it won't be as easy as the governor is suggesting? >> we're in trouble anyway this quarter and the next quarter and putting on taxes of any kind would be the wrong thing to do. sometimes the governor is a former physician, current physician, and you learn first go don't harm the pati
CNBC
Dec 7, 2012 9:00am EST
is a fiscal cliff and concern about rising taxes in those consumer sentiment numbers creeping in and those higher income households pulled back on spending expectations on big ticket items of vehicles and appliances and consumer durables. that's significant. in terms of sandy, one thing i would note is on unemployment survey it was taken on november 5th, the day before the election. remember, there was a nor'easter a few days later that compounded some of the disruptions related to sandy and many of the unemployment insurance claims because people couldn't get out to make the unemployment claims didn't occur until the peak in the middle of november. i think the timing of this survey really did matter in this. steve made a good point on earlier than usual thanksgiving maybe swamping some of the retail effects that we would have seen from sandy because of the seasonals and the way the data was captured. i don't think underlying economy is that much stronger with downward revisions we saw in previous months. i do think the fact that timing and nor'easter was also in here and that did down air
CNBC
Dec 12, 2012 9:00am EST
boehner speaking by telephone on tuesday changing fiscal cliff proposals. reducing new tax revenue from 1.6 to $1.4 trillion over five years. but they're jockeying on who should spell out the specifics on the spending cuts. walmart's ceo mike duke expressed concerns about the fiscal cliff. >> the week before the election, only one-fourth, 25% of our core customers even knew what fiscal cliff meant. okay? one week after the election, it was up to 75%. now these same customers, 15% of our customers are telling us, this discussion about fiscal cliff will affect what they spend on christmas. >> that's a fascinating read on -- >> i wonder who's doing the surveying? how is that occurring? >> greeters? >> i would be curious how they know those percentages. do they ask people at the -- >> yeah. >> and can you define the fiscal cliff? i don't mean to question the methodology, it's interesting. >> just curious. >> i think that when i was in washington, i got the sense that there were just a lot of people there who actually thought romney was going to win. and there would be no fiscal cliff because
CNBC
Dec 10, 2012 1:00pm EST
very much. >>> one aspect of the fiscal cliff debate that hasn't been hardly noticed is the estate tax. how much gets taxed when the move is moved from one generation it the next? >> death and taxes may be certain, but the death tax as its called is in limbo. the reason, well, the fiscal cliff. the current rate is 35%. only those estates worth 5 million or more have to file. if we go off the cliff the rate shoots up to 55%. anyone worth an estate worth $1 million or more has it file. that will catch tens of thousands of tax payers in the net of the estate tax. republicans want it abolished or current rates to be made permanent. obama wants 45% rate and 3.5 million cut off. that mid way between today's rates and old rate. the problem is that even some democrats are siding with republicans saying they want it keep current rates. all the sides here tyler remain very far apart. wealthy families need 20 rewrite their wills and charity plans. for the country, there are hundreds of billions of dollars at stake. under old rates, they raise $532 billion by 2021. obama plan raised around $270 bi
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Dec 6, 2012 12:00pm EST
has been falling, people selling ahead of the fiscal cliff, fearing capital gains, tax hike, fear that china mobile will take longer to start selling the iphone given it's already picked up nokia's latest lumia. reports apple is asking for fewer iphone 5 parts from suppliers and people wrapping that in with fears apple is losing phone market share to android and dealing with compressed margins from ipad mini and other products. as a reporter covering the company i wonder if some of us have crossed over to irrational despondency on apple. tim cook set a high bar in revenue for the quarter, he just had a big opportunity to drop a hint in interviews with nbc's brian williams and bloomberg "business week." so far it seems he didn't do that. iphone 5 supplies coming into balance available to ship in two to four business days online. ipad mini demand outstripped supply which could mean margins are better than apple projected. there are open questions on the pro and con side of apple but the most important ones, these questions can apple ramp iphone supply ahead of the quarter and will d
CNBC
Dec 6, 2012 9:00am EST
continues over the fiscal cliff. today the president h showcasing -- steve liesman asked the treasury sec temporary about the possibility of going over the cliff. >> i want to understand the administration's position when it comes to raising taxing on the wealthy, those making more than $250,000. if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. there's no pros teblpect to the agreement that doesn't involve taxes going up on the wealthiest 2%. remember it's only 2%. >> i talk every day to our customers around this country, around the world sometimes for that matter too, but around the country, and they are all scared to death what happens in january, nobody knows, but all i know is going over the cliff is too hot to handle, it's an option we just can't stare in the face and there's no way we can do it. they will get us through this in one form or fashion. >> interesting call. conventional wisdom, obviously the white house and the secretary hardening their line, and a lot of people are saying the republicans are starting to fray
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Dec 6, 2012 1:00pm EST
this before, haven't we? what do average americans want to see in a fiscal cliff solution. we've got the exclusive results of our exclusive cnbc all-america economic survey. >>> now to everybody's all-american, sue herera standing by at the nyse. >> you're sweet, ty. thanks. >>> we're a little bit on the downside. we really kind of retraced a little bit on the dow jones industrial average. previous to this we were solidly in the green in all three of the major market indices. the dow now down 14 1/2 points. nasdaq up eight. the s&p is down just a fraction. of course we are also watching apple on the back of yesterday's drop. the stock today is traded up $4.82. that's just under a percentage move to the plus side. it's rebounding, still at bear market territory, however. it has lost over $50 billion in market cap over the past few days alone. our bob pisani joins me here on the floor of the nyse. what are you hearing from traders? the market is drifting a little bit. the focus is on apple. there seems to be a little bit of enthusiasm that it can come back to the up side. >> we were up
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Dec 7, 2012 3:00pm EST
competition on tablets, and more concerns about tax selling ahead of the fiscal cliff. still, shares are up 32% year to date. the stock now on track to be down for the ninth week in the last 11. on average, though, when apple has hit that death cross, shares have gained about 1.1% the following week. apple, bill, the reason that the nasdaq is the big underperformer this week. if apple had been added to the dow instead of united health earlier this year, we would have seen a 700-point decline for this pullback in apple. >> we would have been much higher in the dow than we are now. thanks, bertha. what's to do with apple? is it a buy? do you avoid it? let's talk numbers on this today. what to do with this dreaded death cross? >> bill, a lot of clients of phoenix partners are calling in and saying, you know, what do i do now? is this the time to buy apple? my answer is simply, no, no, no. this is not the time to buy. lefts look at a longer term chart. what i want to point to is the nice, healthy, steady increase in price from 2009. all of the sudden, you know, greed takes over. the stock rallies.
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Dec 5, 2012 4:00pm EST
the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. again, there's no prospect in an agreement that doesn't involve the rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest. all those americans get a tax cut under the framework under the first $250,000 of their income. in some sense, it's a tax cut for all americans. it's just for people who make more than that, we're going to ask them to pay a modestly amount more. >> that's hard to understand given how much going over the fiscal cliff would hurt the economy. why is going over the fiscal cliff worth it for just this one component? if you can get the other components, why wouldn't you take that? >> good question. thanks for asking. what we're trying to do is put in place a comprehensive balance set of fiscal reforms that put us back on the path to living within our means and create room for investing to make the economy stronger, make sure we're protecting medicare for future generations, and forcing the government to use the taxpayers' resources more wisely. in that context, you have to have a significant amount of revenues. we don't see a way of doing
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Dec 7, 2012 4:00pm EST
're doing in washington on tax and regulatory policy. in the near term, the fiscal cliff prevails. in the longer term, the fed will prevail. there's so much mistrust on stocks that i think that still can be a positive catalyst for stocks relative to traditional bonds over the next 12 months. >> i'm going to push back a little bit on that. >> i'm going to break the tie in ralph's favor. >> david, i want to push back a little bit on that. in terms of -- like, is the fed really that much of a factor these days now in terms of keeping the market afloat? >> absolutely. >> it's not losing its bang for its buck? >> it's not as powerful as it was in the fall of 2008 or even 2010, but when you consider that, u.s., long bonds, 1.5%. short-term interest rates, zero. negative on an inflation adjusted basis. the cost of capital is so low. i firmly believe in my lifetime this is the most aggressive fed easing we'll see in the last 5i years. that's what's so powerful. >> i think he just hit the ball into your court. >> i don't know how to say it anymore than that. >> i don't know how much more i
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Dec 11, 2012 7:00pm EST
into the fiscal cliff meaning that neither party will let the tax cuts expire. i think republicans are going to stay at a retreat and voting to extend the middle class tax cuts. that will avoid the miss kal cliff situation. and i may not like this deal at all. one reason stocks are behaving wellky well. speaker john boehner is pushing the president to offer spending cuts. so with 20 days to grow, is this likely? am i going to be proven right or whong? larry, we are going to avoid the fiscal cliff resection. the white house is acting with impunity right now. and the white house is so far said look, we want to continue talking about one quarter of the president's own architecture. the president said there was a three to one ratio between savings and cuts and revenue. but they have been silent on this. >> little bit of breaking news. >> wow, the studio is shaking. mr. bhoener is at $800 million. no new information on then ti e ti tiltment. i'm suggesting. it is a game of chicken. neither party can afford this kind of recession. after what we've been through we can't take it. if that meanstendin
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Dec 11, 2012 6:00am EST
are concerned about the fiscal cliff, because of taxes. we are saving, absolutely. we're holding on any types of expansion. in an economy that's like desperate for jobs, that shouldn't be the case. there's really no politics when you have to balance the budget like we do in business every day. it's the same here. i would like lawmakers in congress to compromise and make a settlement, avoid the fiscal cliff, and move on. >> welcome back to our sal mission critical rise above d.c. coverage. i'm jim cramer. becky quick. we're coming to you from capitol hill. and we're here encouraging lawmakers to rise above partisan politics and negotiate a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. joining us now senator ron johnson, republican from wisconsin. thanks so much for coming. >> good morning. >> i'm getting worried here. because clock is ticking. should we allow a vacation without legislation? >> no, i'm happy to stay here until we get this thing fixed. understand how absurd this process is. we've done this with the debt ceiling. with the super committee. now we're back here again where we've got two people, a
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Dec 7, 2012 7:00pm EST
until our economy falls off the tax and fiscal cliff. just where do we stand on a deal coming out of washington, d.c.? cnbc correspondent joins us with all the details. >> reporter: as you know the white house's strategy since the election has been to break republican resistance on two issues. one is tax rates and one is an increase in the debt limit. he hasn't succeeded or budged off that attempt so far which is why john boehner came out in a news conference today and slammed the white house for not being willing to compromise. >> four days ago we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there's been no counter offer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow walk or economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> a few hours later you had a slight indication of flexibility from the administration. vice president joe biden was out. he reiterated those two nonnegotiable demands on the part of the administration but said the actual amount of that top rat
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Dec 5, 2012 6:00pm EST
cliff, we know capital gains tax rates are going higher, right? right? that's obvious. do you think the republicans have the power to keep those capital gains rates down? apple's become a referendum on the president's power. right now he has the upper hand, then he can really roll them and intends to do so. it's reasonable to take some profits so you can pay the tax man more now rather than later. it's a wimpy thing, it's logical, makes perfect economic sense. so the stock gets hammered. it makes sense to sell it. but let's be less emotional and even clinical about this one. first, divide apple's share price by ten, now you have a stock that got crushed down to $54. when you do that, it isn't all that scary, is it? where does the pessimism fit in? when we have to endure the pin the tail on the selloff game, what excuses for the selloff myriad alibis i hear from today's action. apple's losing share to google, it doesn't have the right phones in europe, nokia's making a comeback, the mini isn't selling, there's no special dividend, we've got a stock chart that is the -- >> sell, sell,
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Dec 11, 2012 2:00pm EST
here on cnbc. >> coming up next, the one sector that could be crushed if we go over the fiscal cliff. >>> if congress fails to extend tax cuts or to stop sequestration before the end of the year, this will result in an additional $491 billion in revenue over fiscal year 2013. what's next? he's going to apply testosterone to his underarm. axiron, the only underarm treatment for low t, can restore testosterone levels back to normal in most men. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18. axiron can transfer to others through direct contact. women, especially those who are or who may become pregnant, and children should avoid contact where axiron is applied as unexpected signs of puberty in children or changes in body hair or increased acne in women may occur. report these signs and symptoms to your doctor if they occur. tell your doctor about all medical conditions and medications. do not use if you have prostate or breast cancer. serious side effects could include increased risk of prostate cancer; worsening prostate symptoms; decreased sperm count; ankle, feet, or body
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Dec 7, 2012 1:00pm EST
announcing special dividend hikes in an effort to avoid higher taxes if we go over the fiscal cliff. more than 100 companies have announced more than $20 billion in payments in q4. let's get you up to date on big ones for today. shoe carnival declaring a special cash dividend of $1 a share. america's biggest home builder dr horton accelerating all of its 2013 dividend payments into this year. jb hunt transfor the pulling forward its quarterly dividend into this year as well instead of february next year. the move is on in a big way. >>> mixed news on the economic front. the november unemployment rate falling to 7.7%, the lowest since december of '08. beware of the cliff. house speaker john boehner today saying no progress has been made on resolving the looming fiscal cliff. more morial, former mayor of new orleans. we'll talk about the giants and the saints at the end of the segment. you must be encouraged by the unemployment rate coming down and the growth in jobs despite several headwind in the economy. >> it's better news. it's 33 months of continued job growth but make no mistake abou
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Dec 10, 2012 6:00am EST
and the fiscal cliff. republicans want a melt on xwiemtment and tax reform from the president. democrats insist this will not happen until the gop agrees on a tax hike. senator dick durbin saying no deal on the debt without a tax hike of the wealthy. >> i can't tell you, i don't want to do it, the president doesn't want to do it, but we need to solve the problem been we cannot allow the reckless position to drive this economy into another recession. >> some suggesting that it might be better to cave to the president now on taxes and keep up the fight on spending. >> if we were to pass, for instance, raising the top two rate and that's it, all of a sudden we do have the leverage of the debt ceiling and we haven't given that up. >> meantime, one influential voice says enough is enough. >> that's like betting your country. there's something terribly bizarre and juvenile about that is to think your party comes ahead of your country. i don't go for that at all. >> that, of course, was alan simpson, the other half of simpso simpson-bowles. erskin bowles will join us this morning, as well. if you have
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Dec 7, 2012 6:00am EST
dividends trying to beat possible tax hikes and the fiscal cliff uncertainty could lead to an increase in mergers and acquisitions. they look to complete transactions by year end and i made a fool of myself the last hour trying to go all the way through. not doing it anymore. >> we do that all the time here. that's what we have three hours for. >> it was dumb. >> the name fiscal cliff where did that actually come from? >> i don't know. >> bernanke maybe. >> maybe. >> really? >> maybe bernanke. >> that thing really stuck. >> that's a good question. that's good trivia. i'll goog it. >> we've said it's not really. it doesn't happen really. it's more of a ski slope it's not a black diamond slope. it's more advanthan advanced. >> a double blue. >> but not without a lot of moguls. >> dan gilbert is the own of the cleveland cavaliers and the founder of quicken loans and you're the perfect person to have here because you have your finger on so many different things happening in detroit and around the country. let's start with the housing industry this morning because people have been trying to
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Dec 11, 2012 11:00pm EST
the fiscal cliff. the leaders i talked to today know their actions will take us over the cliff. i understand there is now perception among the media that the man who got every republican to pledge no new taxes is spent. the no tax increase republicans regard the stance as a birthright. a guy that is so anti-spend that he seemed to care more on these issues and more about the accountability for the disaster relief money. i can't really believe that. but a lot of guys down there will do anything to prove a point. but i can tell you there are enough garrets to force us over the cliff. given that the president is not going to let up. got a question either people don't know about the cliff or they believe that a deal will be done. and they that they have fulfilled the norquist pledge. where were the republicans when they refused to pay for the wars, cut taxes, took money from the chinese two, why didn't republicans press for spending cuts when the president extended the tax cuts? and why doesn't the president offer spending cuts to medicare and defense and social security? how about weapons progr
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Dec 9, 2012 7:30pm EST
if we see downward revisions coming up. >>> the other big story we're talking about is the fiscal cliff. can you help us read the tea leaves. we heard from timothy geithner and he was asked, if you.n don' get higher tax rates on the rich and doing away with loopholes, exemptions, are you peepd repar go off the cliff? he said absolutely. the republicans with the counter proposals this week. how do you read all of this? >> please, you know as well as i do maria, what happens in the public when you have these intense negotiations going on is really -- is no reflection of what's going on in the negotiations at all. i think it's important that president and the white house and tim geithner and others obviously think it's important to keep up the possibility of going over the physical cliff to put maximum pressure on the republicans and the republicans are starting to talk about the possibility of holding up the debt ceiling come january or february. >> it's interesting you say this. you're focused on taxes and much of the conversation has been on taxes and raising rates and revenue. we're no
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Dec 11, 2012 9:00am EST
with a deal on the fiscal cliff? why? because it represents the beginning of american austerity. higher taxes in the long run, spending cuts in the long run, that is a headwind for stocks. not a tailwind. i know everybody's excited about the deal being made. but a substantial minority believes that's a deal for the fed stocks. the general consensus down here, current purchases, $85 billion, is going to continue. instead of $45 billion from operation twist, operation twist goes away, and you go to outright purchases of treasuries. and you continue with that $40 billion in mortgage-backed security purchases. the $85 billion, they're doing right now, continues in a slightly different form. you guys, we're talking about aig. just two observations on aig. you'll notice here, it looks like to me they're not repurchasing any of their shares. they're dumping a huge amount of shares on the market. aig isn't actually buying it back. that's a signed of strength for the company. the other interesting thing is, the losses on sandy have been coming in recently. aig gave $2 billion in pre-tax losses. you in
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Dec 12, 2012 1:00pm EST
the firm's $3.7 trillion in assets. >> does this mean we good over the fiscal cliff. >> it is a very high likelihood it does or 11:59 on december 31st with a lot of hoopla. but tax rate are going to go up. there is a going to be a conclusion to this. even if it waits until the last minute. even if it is in january, what it is going to mean is slow growth. it may mean that we lose the entire first quarter because everybody is still worrying and talking about the issue. and here we go, clients again, investing in a time when they need to be invested. >> he also thinks if we go over the cliff it might trig ear recession. what about the fed? as you know, it announced those big moves today. tying any move in rates to the unemployment rate. are we in a bond double? we will hear from blackrock's chief investment officers of fundamentals fixed income reader told me later. >> ty, over to you. >> thank you very much. to the fed now, policy makers leaving interest rates unchanged and announcing a new bond program and making an historic move to economic targets. bernanke gearing up now for his big ne
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Dec 5, 2012 9:00am EST
be a fiscal cliff. the gulf is hotter than it's ever been even a few years ago it was ice cold. >> big story in the journal about exploration in this country. production 15-year high. brand new chapter here. look at the bottom of your screen. citigroup is cutting 11,000 jobs. we want to get to kayla tausche with more on that. >> we have a release that just hit the wire in citigroup where those jobs are coming from and a charge that the company plans to take in the fourth quarter because of these job cuts even though it expects them to generate $900 million in cost savings next year. interestingly this is the first move toward really slimming down citi by the new ceo. he has a quote in here saying these actions are logical next steps in citi's transformation and says they're committed to strategy that continues to leverage in the global banking market. if you go through the list of where these jobs are actually coming from, institutional clients group which is investment banking a quarter of the job cuts are going to come from there. my 2013 predictions i said that group would slim down by ha
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Dec 12, 2012 3:00pm EST
in the fiscal cliff jungle. steve forbes says nobody should pay more in taxes, but howard dean says everybody needs to pay more in taxes. they will battle it out right here on the "closing bell." it is pay-per-view material right there coming up on cnbc, first in business worldwide. ally bank. why they have a raise your rate cd. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates will be in two years? no. if he can't, no one can. that's why ally has a raise your rate cd. ally bank. your money needs an ally. look this isn't my first christmas. these deals all seem great at the time... but later... [ shirt ] merry christmas, everybody! not so much. ho ho ho! this isn't that kind of deal. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. she also likes to ride her bike. she knows the potential for making or losing money can pop up anytime. that's why she trades with the leader in mobile trading. so she's always ready to take action, no matter ho
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Dec 6, 2012 6:00pm EST
of the fiscal cliff. you combine the greatest capital gains generator out there of all time in the change of tax code of uncertain proportions, it's almost impossible to justify not selling. those people then impact the chart and the chart is signaled code red and causes the institutions to worry that, perhaps, the stock can bring down the performance, which brings in still more selling. >> sell, sell, sell! >> it's a vicious cycle down. it makes a ton of sense. let's talk about what can happen here. year end, 2013, it will be too late to sell to get the tax break. we'll find out, i believe, that apple's ipad sales are through the roof, including the mini, the iphone will have bigger sales than thought in the u.s. and will start taking share in china, all the big carriers will be selling it and an omg product might be on the way. the market capitalization will still be outsized versus the rest of the market and that i don't like. there's nothing you can do about the rest of the market, right? as we settled three times today, if you want to measure the selloff here, use the 12 days of christmas a
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Dec 6, 2012 11:00pm EST
could be brimming with jobs. a lot of projects on hold, though, fiscal cliff. yep, the obstacle is washington, all because of the need to sock it to the 2%, not the 1.5% and the over $400,000 crowd, the 1%, or the need to fulfill the anti-tax pledge of allegiance many of our congressmen made to my college chum grover norquist. i thought bill gates and chief justice roberts were powerful. he makes the other guys look like crash dummies. we're on the cusp of an economic boom in this country. but we have politicians that would rather create a recession, a mandated economic collapse, let's create a bear market versus rising above. and guess what? these enemies of wealth and job creation may get their way and win. yes, to borrow a phrase from my own rant last time we were on the brink of a washington-inspired financial disaster, they know nothing. shawn in illinois. shawn? >> caller: hello, jim. >> what's up, chief? >> caller: booyah from chicago land. >> done. speak to me. >> caller: i've been watching blizzard for some time now, and i just heard a report that their sales revenue fr
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Dec 11, 2012 12:00pm EST
of next year, i think really depends on the details of the fiscal cliff deal. we're looking to see just how much fiscal drag there will be in 2013 overall from both spending cuts and tax hikes. and also we want to see just the amount of tax hikes. i hope that those tax hikes are not greater than 1% of gdp. >> how much fed stimulus does the market need to hit some of the targets that you're thinking about it might be able to do? >> the 1500 that is our 12-month target would take the fiscal stimulus, take the monetary stimulus that basically folks are talking about, just a fed balance sheet getting above $3 trillion. i don't think necessarily 4 trillion. i think the key to get the s&p well above 1500 is looking at the fiscal policy, the tax hikes in particular, and probably the best litmus test is the dividend tax rate. expectations for the dividend tax rate, a lot of optimism has been lost since the election there. before the election 80%, 85% of clients i spoke to expected the dividend tax rate to go no higher than 25%. right now it's only about 50% of clients that expect no higher than
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Dec 5, 2012 6:00am EST
talking about every morning here since the election. fiscal cliff, big, big issue. there are now, it seems, growing numbers of people on both the right and the left who would like to see us just go over that fiscal cliff. how big of a problem would that be? >> that would be a big problem. i actually still believe that those -- the democrats, the administration, republicans in the final analysis don't want to see that happen. they do understand that not only would that present a problem in the near term as we went over the cliff at the end of the year, but we still then have the whole debt ceiling fight that would transpire shortly into the new year. the issue isn't simply the negative result of going over the cliff, but it's also that business, consumers, everybody continues to hold back on the uncertainty. and we believe the economy is pretty well positioned potentially in 2013 if we can put this behind us. so i think a lot of what's going on is what you would expect to see in this negotiation, very public negotiation, which is not the best way to do it. i think at some point, the preside
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